Although the pants have great pocket placement and good potential. They lack severly in the use of cordura material in key location that would make these pants the best pants to buy. They , no dobt could improve on the quality of the pants to make them better. The choice will be up to them to decide if they care about their costomers and their product. Or, do they just care about the price and making a sale. Only time will tell with this company. You decide what you think about the quality of their product.